"The trouble is that once you see it, you can't unsee it. And once you've seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There is no innocence. Either way, you're accountable."
- Arundhati Roy

"Currently, the parties are just names. The distinction now is globalists versus nationalists."
- Michael

After dinner, "Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice," Ms. Warren writes. "I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider. Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don?t listen to them. Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People ? powerful people ? listen to what they have to say. But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don?t criticize other insiders."
Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren?s memoir "A Fighting Chance", conversation with Larry Summers

"He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave."
- Sir William Drummond of Logiealmond in "Academical Questions", end of preface (1805)

"TV is not free, it costs you your time. The Press is what the rich want you to see."
- Old expression

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans...unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing."
- Karl Rove, Republican fundraiser and political strategist, The New Yorker, February 16, 2001

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere, so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

"He who controls the media controls the minds of the public."
- Noam Chomsky

"There's class warfare, all right, but its my class, the rich class that's making war and we're winning."
- Warren Buffet

"Throughout the annals of political science -- or at least the annals of Internet history -- there's been an unwritten law: Elections are won by whomever devises the best way to cheat."
- Lou Cabron

"The press isn't quite as biased and liberal. They're actually conservative sometimes"
- William Kristol, Fox News neocon pundit, CNN's "Reliable Sources", 2000

"I admit it, The whole idea of the 'liberal media' was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures."
- William Kristol, Fox News neocon pundit, The New Yorker, 5/22/95

"Every great cause evolves into a movement, then into a business, and then it degenerates into a racket."
- Eric Hoffer, (I've seen many different arrangements of this quote)

"A defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence."
- George Will, right-wing columnist, "Realistic words would be welcome on Iraq", 3/3/06

"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."
- Maj. General Smedly Butler

"Somehow, the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country. Somehow, this is tolerated. Somehow, nobody is accountable for this."
-Kevin Tillman, former Army Ranger who served in Iraq and Afghanistan with his older brother, the late Pat Tillman

"Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich."
- Sir Peter Alexander Ustinov

"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
- Doctor Who, fictional character, "Face of Evil"

"These are globetrotting sorts who are world citizens, and see the USA as merely a state within the world collective. Don't let those ... accents and folksy mannerisms fool you, they do not have an allegiance to this country; they live in the BIG picture, and are not fettered by borders, boundaries or oceanic barriers."
- anonymous web poster

"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead."
- Leo Rosten, Leo Rosten's Treasury of Jewish Quotations

"Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it."
- Lysander Spooner

"The fact is, there is no other way to strip a population of it's liberties than to make them fear living without a certain level of protection. Anyone calling us Truth seekers crack pots, or tin foil hats are either too lazy to research, look and listen to what is plainly presented in front of them, or two, are so caught up in the fake reality we are pushed to believe that anything outside of that is just too uncomfortable for them. Reality is always darker than fiction. You also have to understand, we aren't dealing with groups of people like you or myself. We are dealing with people who think and feel differently than we do. The powerful elite don't look at the rest of us the same way we view each other. We aren't equals to them. We don't all deserve the same liberties or benefits of life. To them, we are pawns in their game for further growth of their power and wealth. Too many people in this country have their Eyes Wide Shut."
- Jason Appleton

"You got a lotta nerve / To say you are my friend / When I was down / You just stood there grinning / You got a lotta nerve / To say you got a helping hand to lend / You just want to be on / The side that's winning"
- Bob Dylan: Positively 4th Street

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
- Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation states involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future."
-U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

"I'm still hearing too many fools repeating the decades-old complaint about the mainstream media being silent on this issue or that issue as if they were expecting them to undergo some kind of miraculous transformation and actually start reporting the news. 'The mainstream media's not doing their job', is their usual announcement, as if this should surprise us. The fact of the matter is that these complainers are wrong. The mainstream media is doing their job, and they're doing it very well if you're still expecting them to tell the truth. The problem is that you've been unaware of what their job is. I guess you were expecting Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen to risk their lives to bring you the facts, when in reality, the job of the mainstream media has always been to obfuscate, twist, distort, conceal, and distract you from the news, while skillfully keeping you convinced that they were keeping you abreast of important issues."
- JollyRoger blog

"Mankind cannot take too much reality."
- TS Eliot

"I mean, it's just human nature to suck up to the people above you, crap on those beneath you and undercut your equals."
- Teresa Hsiao, writer, "Family Guy - No Country Club for Old Men"

"The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth. The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human."
- Aldous Huxley

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
- Voltaire, French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)

"Once you accept another person's authority, you become a different person. You are concerned with how well you follow out your orders, rather than whether it is right or wrong."
- Dr. Thomas Blass

"News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress. Everything else is publicity."
- Lord Northcliffe

"There is no good and evil; there is only power and those too weak to seek it."
- JK Rowling, "Harry Potter", character Quirrell

"Man seizes, abandons, but then commits again the errors that flatter him."
- Antoine Lavoisier

"We were led to believe decades ago that in the future, automation would eliminate the need for human workers, so we'd only have to work maybe 10-20 hours a week, if that, and we'd have a much more leisurely lifestyle. Fast forward to now, and we find ourselves either out of work with little in the way of a social safety net, or if we're lucky enough to be employed, we either don't make enough to live comfortably, or slave away for more than 40 hours in the hopes that we may be spared from the next round of layoffs. I don't blame these workers for fighting for their right to earn a living, if the government isn't going to provide a proper safety net."
- Alfred E. Bonner

"History is an account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools."
- Ambrose Bierce, American writer, 1842-1914

"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past."
- George Orwell, 1984

"Propaganda, is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state."
- Noam Chomsky, Media Control, read everything you can by this author

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"If the constitution of a state is democratic, then every exceptional negation of democratic principles, every exercise of state power independent of the approval of the majority, can be called dictatorship."
- Carl Schmitt, "The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy"

"In dictatorships we are more fortunate than you in the West in one respect. We believe nothing of what we read in the newspapers and nothing of what we watch on television, because we know it's propaganda and lies. Unlike you in the West. We've learned to look behind the propaganda and to read between the lines, and unlike you, we know that the real truth is always subversive."
- dissident Czech novelist Zdener Urbanek

"Politics is about getting outside of yourself and your own problems for a little while and fully immersing yourself in the lies and deceit of others."
- Stephen Elliott, "Happy Baby"

"But what counter-insurgency really comes down to is the protection of the capitalists back in America, their property and their privileges. US national security, as preached by US leaders, is the security of the capitalist class in the US, not the security of the rest of the people."
- Philip Agee, CIA Diary, p562

"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month."
- CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. "Katherine The Great," by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)

"What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way."
- Bertrand Russell

"The middle class and working poor are told that what's happening to them is the consequence of Adam Smith's 'Invisible Hand.' This is a lie. What's happening to them is the direct consequence of corporate activism, intellectual propaganda, the rise of a religious orthodoxy that in its hunger for government subsidies has made an idol of power, and a string of political decisions favoring the powerful and the privileged who bought the political system right out from under us."
- Bill Moyers, Keynote speech, June 3, 2004

"Neither is it that US foreign policy is cruel because American leaders are cruel. It's that our leaders are cruel because only those willing to be inordinately cruel and remorseless can hold positions of leadership in the foreign policy establishment; it might as well be written into the job description. People capable of expressing a full human measure of compassion and empathy toward faraway powerless strangers - (let alone American soldiers) - do not become president of the United States, or vice president, or secretary of state, or national security adviser or secretary of the treasury. Nor do they want to."
- William Blum, from 'Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower'

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
- Sinclair Lewis

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."
- Jay Gould, financier

"The average guy don't rock the boat because they want to get on it."
- Hunter S. Thompson, writer, "The Rum Diary"

"There's no such thing as a liberal. A liberal is a commie with a college education thinking negro thoughts."
"This country was built on genocide and slavery. We killed all the black guys over here and then we shipped in new black guys of our own. And then we brought in Jesus like a bar of soap."
- Hunter S. Thompson, writer, "The Rum Diary"

"The big lie about capitalism is that everyone can be rich. That's impossible. Capitalism works only if the vast majority of the population are kept poor enough to never quit working, are kept poor enough to accept distasteful jobs society cannot function without. If everyone were a millionaire, who would empty the trash or repair the sewers? It follows that the poorer the general population is made, the greater the worth of the money held by the wealthy, in terms of the lives which may be bought and sold with it."
- Michael Rivero

"... the media in the United States effectively represents the interests of corporate America, and ... the media elite are the watchdogs of what constitutes acceptable ideological messages, the parameters of news and information content, and the general use of media resources."
- Peter Phillips, Project Censored, 1998

"You see, when a nation threatens another nation the people of the latter forget their factionalism, their local antagonisms, their political differences, their suspicions of each other, their religious hostilities, and band together as one unit. Leaders know that, and that is why so many of them whip up wars during periods of national crisis, or when the people become discontented and angry. The leaders stigmatize the enemy with every vice they can think of, every evil and human depravity. They stimulate their people s natural fear of all other men by channeling it into a defined fear of just certain men, or nations. Attacking another nation, then, acts as a sort of catharsis, temporarily, on men s fear of their immediate neighbors. This is the explanation of all wars, all racial and religious hatreds, all massacres, and all attempts at genocide."
- Taylor Caldwell, "The Devils Advocate" (1952) - pg. 299

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers call this a new [world] order. It is not new and it is not order"
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt

"--- justice is nothing more than whatever is advantageous to the stronger.--" "---some nations are ruled by tyrants, others are ruled by a democratic majority, and still others are ruled by a small aristocracy. . . . Whoever rules-the ruling party-is the stronger in each nation . . . . And in each nation, whoever rules passes the laws that are to their own-the rulers' advantage. After they pass these laws, they say that justice is obeying the law. Whoever fails to keep the law is punished as unjust and a lawbreaker. So that . . . is what I say justice is. Justice is the same in all nations: whatever is to the advantage of the ruling group. The ruling group --- is the stronger. So --- everywhere justice is the same: it is whatever is advantageous to the stronger."
"I proclaim that justice is nothing else than the interest of the stronger. ... The different forms of government make laws democratical, aristocratic, tyrannical, with a view to their several interests; and these laws, which are made by them from their own interests, are the justice which they deliver to their subjects, and him who transgresses them they punish as a breaker of the law, and unjust. And this is what I mean when I say that in all states there is the same principle of justice which is in the interest of the government; and as the government must be supposed to have power, the only reasonable conclusion is that everywhere there is one principle of justice which is in the interests of the stronger."
- Thrasymachus' view of justice from Plato's Republic, a very cynical view authoritarians adopt

"Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out ? People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically right. Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work."
? L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach)

"Truth is treason in an empire of lies."
- Ron Paul

"The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
-- U.S. Vice President Henry A. Wallace, quoted in the New York Times, April 9, 1944

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."
- Abraham Lincoln, (American 16th US President (1861-65)

"The NSS [National Security State] represents and serves the interests of a tiny elite. Its economic policies of 'trickling-up', enforced by the machine gun, are rationalized on the ground that growth in the long run will trickle down to the lower orders. This is a self-serving ideology designed mainly to allow the western public to think well of themselves and their own country."
- Edward S. Herman, economist, author, and US media and foreign policy critic

"Many Americans want to nurture an image of innocence and decency and yet most Americans want most of all to stay on top and continue to applaud clear victories in the Third World however achieved."
- Richard A. Falk, American professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University

"Uncontrolled power will turn even saints into savages. And we can all be counted on to live down to our lowest impulses." "Come now. We aren't children. In your culture, justice is the will of the stronger. It is forced upon people by means of weapons and fleets of spaceships. Our justice is the will of the stronger mind, and I, for one, consider it a vast improvement."
- Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren", character Parmen quoting Thrasymachus in Plato's Republic (Star Trek has political satire)

"The loud little handful will shout for war. The pulpit will warily and cautiously protest at first.... The great mass of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes, and will try to make out why there should be a war, and they will say earnestly and indignantly: "It is unjust and dishonorable and there is no need for war." Then the few will shout even louder.... Before long you will see a curious thing: anti--war speakers will be stoned from the platform, and free speech will be strangled by hordes of furious men who still agree with the speakers but dare not admit it... Next, the statesmen will invent cheap lies...and each man will be glad of these lies and will study them because they soothe his conscience; and thus he will bye and bye convince himself that the war is just and he will thank God for a better sleep he enjoys by his self--deception."
-- Mark Twain

"Of the enemies of true liberty, war is perhaps the most dreaded because it compromises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those of subduing the force of the people."
- James Madison, the chief author of US Constitution

"The CIA is not now nor has it ever been a central intelligence agency. It overthrows or supports foreign governments while reporting "intelligence" justifying those activities. Disinformation is a large part of its covert action responsibility, and the American people are the primary target of its lies."
- Ralph McGehee, former Career Intelligence Medal recipient officer of the CIA (1952 to 1977) and critic of the agency.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
- Henry Kissinger, New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973, war criminal who is an esteemed pundit by corporate news media, treated as an elder statesman

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers"
- Thomas Pynchon said (in Gravity's Rainbow)

"People have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts. Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight"
- James W. Loewen

"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
- The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild

"Gandhi's Seven Deadly Sins: Mohandas Karamachand Gandhi, one of the most influential figures in modern social and political activism, considered these traits to be the most spiritually perilous to humanity. Wealth without Work, Pleasure without Conscience, Science without Humanity, Knowledge without Character, Politics without Principle, Commerce without Morality, Worship without Sacrifice"
- Gandhi

"Sorry guys? free men have no leaders. Only slaves (and the mentally deficient) have leaders. You've got a choice to make."
- AnthonyH (just another internet poster)

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
- Voltaire

"The secret of a great success for which you are at a loss to account is a crime that has never been found out, because it was properly executed."
- Honor? de Balzac's tragicomic novel "Le P?re Goriot."

"A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more money than a hundred men with guns."
- Don Corleone, character in movie 'The Godfather'

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."
- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

"... I was just born poor in a country where the Wealthy manipulate, use, abuse, and economically enslave 95% of the population. Rich Republicans, Rich Democrats... same-same... rich... they take turns fleecing us... our few dollars... pyramiding the wealth for themselves. The 95%... the us, in US of A, are the neo slaves of the Global South. Our Masters, the Wealthy, do, as they like to us..."
- Clay Duke, died 12-14-10

"socialism was designed for aristocrats to keep them from fallen beneath the burgeoning bourgeoisie
The 1%'s have become Americas' aristocrats and just like those of the 19th century they aim to keep the peasants and the middle class at bay by taking from the middle class and giving to the under class in the name of social justice, meanwhile the money they pay is chump change and they have duped a significant portion of the middle class into supporting their scheme because they think they are doing good, they are getting the fair share out of the 1%, or they just believe that the middle class should be stuck toiling away at they chump change "make more that the poverty level" jobs, while kicking the bucket early from heart attacks
the indoctrination system of public education has been very effective indeed"
- starz-n-barz, Yahoo commenter, 10-28-15

"Transition from Capitalism to Fascism is inevitable in all capitalist countries. Capitalism gives birth to large corporations governed by private elites who can trade where ever they want all over the world. Since the fundamental capitalistic force of greed and profit guides the corporates, many of them eventually turn out to be much richer than the governments themselves. What happens when some elites are wealthier than the governments? Its obvious. The elites either buy the governments and run the country covertly, solely for their own interests; or the government opens its eyes and fights the capitalists directly or indirectly to regain their power and control. These are the only two outcomes of the capitalistic system. The case of US seems to be the first one because corporates have already bought the government."
- Anonymous Coward, India, 08/05/2009

"I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts."
- Abraham Lincoln, 16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

"The end of Democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when the government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."
- Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the United States

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
- Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the United States

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity in the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
- Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the United States

"[There exists] a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself."
? Daniel Inouye, US Senator 1977

"It is the very nature of power that it attracts the very sort of people who should not have it. The United States, as the world's last superpower, is a prize that attracts men and women willing to do anything to win that power, and hence are willing to do anything with it once they have it. It is racist to assume that tyrants appear only in other nations and that somehow America is immune simply because we're Americans. America has escaped the clutches of a dictatorship only through the efforts of those citizens who, unlike the Germans and Russians of the 1930s, have the moral courage to stand up and point out where the government is lying to the people."
"Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom."
- Alexis de Tocqueville --"Democracy in America"(1835)

"You must understand. The leading BOLSHEVIKS who took over Russia were NOT RUSSIANS. They hated Russians. THEY HATED CHRISTIANS. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and SLAUGHTERED MILLIONS of Russians WITHOUT REMORSE. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an INVASION AND CONQUEST over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the GREATEST HUMAN SLAUGHTER OF ALL TIME. The fact that most of the WORLD IS IGNORANT of this reality is proof that the GLOBAL MEDIA itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."
"The simple act of a brave man is not to participate in lies."
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize-winning novelist, historian and critic of Communist totalitarianism

"Religion is not merely a tool to oppress the masses, it is a self perpetuating scam that leads the masses to oppress themselves."
- Michael Sherlock

"Liberalism is really piecemeal socialism, and socialism always attacks three basic social institutions: religion, the family, and private property. Religion, because it offers a rival authority to the state; the family, because it means a rival loyalty to the state; and property, because it means material independence of the state."
? Joseph Sobran

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